Port William

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Port William

Postby northeast » Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:13 am

Redcar as it might have been! The planned harbour was proposed in the 1830's and would have been named PORT WILLIAM.

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Re: Port William

Postby Whickham » Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:22 am

I don't know Redcar particularly well and remembered it as a fairly flat beach so was intrigued by George’s “Port William”.
I came across this map on the web which identifies the various rock formations and links them to local buildings on the sea front.
A few photos of wrecks on the rocks showed me how wrong I was. Who was "William"?

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Re: Port William

Postby northeast » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:05 am

You can't have been there at low water Dave, both Saltscar (Coatham) and East Scar are very visible. Good crabbing grounds in my youth!

I grew up looking at the remains of FAIRPLAY II without knowing what it was, also the fishermen referred to 'the Frenchman's boiler' which would be the MONTAUBAN. The ribs of ROSE OF ENGLAND sometimes come out of the sand at very low tides.
DIMITRIS was wrecked when I was 7 but admit don't remember it too clearly, unlike TAXIARCHIS which was a little earlier and well up the beach so couldn't be missed! We used to call it the 'Andrew Dimitris' not knowing she was DIMITRIS, of Andros!

These rocks took their toll on a lot of ships which came up the coast round Hunt Cliff, saw the South Gare and headed for it!! There always was a buoy further out but if they cut inside it was at their peril. DIMITRIS was from the south with iron ore for the Tees. Both MONTAUBAN and TAXIARCHIS were southbound and got too close for whatever reason.

http://clydeships.co.uk/view.php?year_b ... AR+MALAYAN

http://clydeships.co.uk/view.php?year_b ... =MONTAUBAN

http://www.teesbuiltships.co.uk/view.ph ... ssel=CALDY

FAIRPLAY TWO was ex FAIRPLAY XIV built 1922 and renamed in 1938 when Fairplay moved some of their tugs to UK flag (connected with Jewish persecutions I think).

The king at time was WILLIAM IV hence the name.
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Re: Port William

Postby northeast » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:19 am

Looking in the CLIP site, it seems ROSE OF ENGLAND might have been this one on the Tees site?

http://www.teesbuiltships.co.uk/view.ph ... OF+ENGLAND
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Re: Port William

Postby Whickham » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:50 pm

Thanks George, think I did stop there for a bag of chips one day, but perhaps it was high tide.
Also had a quick look for ROSE OF ENGLAND in the papers but couldn't spot her demise.
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Re: Port William

Postby teesships » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:32 pm

Actually ENGLAND'S ROSE according to a local website!
http://www.redcar.org/shipwreck-englands-rose/

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Re: Port William

Postby northeast » Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:30 pm

In that case she should be:
ON.20738 reg. at Exeter in 1858, built at Topsham, and in LR.1882 owned at Dover by J. & H. Crundal. 164grt and 100.5ft long.
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